: You might be inclined to suppose that, over the course of nearly half a millennium, we must have reached a consensus on the English equivalent for an old Greek word, polytropos. But Wilson aims for a direct equation: one line of English for one of Greek. Reviewed in the United States on December 27, 2022. The work of translation could turn from a bond to a mode of literary and conceptual freedom. I think about status very differently now as a result. [19] Following many other Homeric scholars, she has argued that the hierarchical societies depicted in the Homeric poems are not viewed uncritically by the narrator, and that the poems include many voices and many distinct points of view. I liked more or less everything about it. [16] In 2019, Wilson was the recipient of a MacArthur Fellowship for her work bringing classical literature to new audiences. Polytropos, Wilson said, in her deep, buoyant voice, pointing to the fifth word u of the 12,110-line epic poem that I had come to her office at the University of Pennsylvania to discuss. In 2010, she translated Seneca's tragedies, with an introduction and notes, in Six Tragedies of Seneca. Some of these plays Antigone and the Sophoclean Electra in particular could be moulded to fit repressive contemporary ideals of womanhood, since their heroines demonstrate selfless devotion to dead male family members. One characteristic of Homeric verse is the formulaic epithet: much-suffering Odysseus, lovely-ankled Ino. These arose as byproducts of oral composition pitons, Mendelsohn calls them, stuck into the vast face of the epic to provide a momentary respite for both bard and hearers. : Greek, Latin and English Tragic Survival. For the love of whatever please stop asking, it's legit distressing. Women have long been marginalised in the world of ancient texts, but female scholars and translators are finally having their say, If you look up the subject heading female classicists in the large research library catalogue at the university where I teach, a grand total of five books pop up of which two are separate editions of Its a Dons Life by Mary Beard. In the Iliad, it is Achilles, the greatest of the Greeks, a demigod almost invulnerable to death. Id never read an Odyssey that sounded like this. In The Iliad Homer sang of death and glory, of a few days in the struggle between the Greeks and the Trojans. Only Norgate (of many a turn) and Cook (of many turns) preserve the Greek roots as Wilson describes them poly (many), tropos (turn) answers that, if you produced them as a student of classics, much of whose education is spent translating Greek and Latin and being marked correct or incorrect based on your knowledge of the dictionary definitions, would earn you an A. Wilson is at her best in one of the poems greatest scenes, the first meeting in Book 19 between Penelope and her unrecognized husband: Her face was melting, like the snow that Zephyr scatters across the mountain peaks; then Eurus thaws it, and as it melts, the rivers swell and flow again. Complicated: the brilliance of Wilsons choice is, in part, its seeming straightforwardness. So do the breezy complacency of Menelaus, the innocence of Nausicaa, the gruff decency of the swineherd Eumaeus. They knew that an encounter with this alien language and culture could help them move, feel, think and write differently. Emily Wilson's crisp and musical version is a cultural landmark. Its describing a boys club. Dismal as it has been in other respects, the fall of 2017 has been good to readers of Homer. The prefix poly, Wilson said, laughing, means many or multiple. Tropos means turn. Many or multiple could suggest that hes much turned, as if he is the one who has been put in the situation of having been to Troy, and back, and all around, gods and goddesses and monsters turning him off the straight course that, ideally, hed like to be on. Written in plain, contemporary language. She and another female colleague who had a child who was the same age as me organized this day care, first in my house and then it moved to this building near Somerville College.. I partly just want to shake them and make them see that all translations are interpretations. Most of the criticism Wilson expects, she says, will come from a digging in of the heels: Thats not what it says in the dictionary, and therefore it cant be right! And if you put down anything other than whats said in the dictionary, then, of course, you have to add a footnote explaining why, which means that pretty much every line has to have a footnote. There was a problem loading your book clubs. Her complex answer is tied up with the history of womens education. Or, it could be that hes this untrustworthy kind of guy who is always going to get out of any situation by turning it to his advantage. The Odyssey is notable for the range of its female characters, and for the sympathy and respect with which it treats them. Though she has resisted them, the women in her palace have not. Please try your request again later. [1] In 2006, she was named a Fellow of the American Academy in Rome in Renaissance & Early Modern scholarship (Rome Prize). [17], Beginning, "Tell me about a complicated man", Wilson's metrical verse includes some creative and unusual phrases (such as "journeyways of fish"), although much of her verse translation uses "plain, contemporary language",[18] attending to both Homer's "fleetness" and "rhythm and musicality". In the second-wave feminist scholarship in classics, Wilson told me, people were very keen to try to read Penelope as, Lets find Penelopes voice in the Odyssey, and lets celebrate her, because look, here she is being the hero in an epic in ways we can somehow unpack. I find thats a little simplistic. Something went wrong. Daciers well-informed, scholarly texts were widely read, not least by Alexander Pope, who used her French to produce his translations of Homer. It was revolutionary, Wilson tells me, with uncomplicated pride, and it was resented: I was the founding member of the Somerville crche. The reviewer actually says this about Emily Wilson's translation: " And genius is certainly one of the first words that comes to mind when reading Emily Wilson's clean-lined, compulsively readable translation of the Odyssey **, one of the most interesting versions of the epic ever produced in English."**. If youre going to admit that stories matter, Wilson told me, then it matters how we tell them, and that exists on the level of microscopic word choice, as well as on the level of which story are you going to pick to start off with, and then, what exactly is that story? Please try again. , ISBN-13 Emily Wilson, in the introduction to her translation writes, . , Hardcover One of the things I struggled with, Wilson continued, sounding more exhilarated than frustrated as she began to unpack polytropos, the first description we get of Odysseus, is of course this whole question of whether he is passive the much turning or much turned right? I asked Wilson why translation isnt valued in the academy. In compensation we get moments of surprising lyricism: the Ethiopians, who live between the sunset and the dawn; a sea gull wetting its whirring wings; seals whose breath smells sour / from gray seawater. Wilson has a fine ear, as when her Penelope waves away a compliment: The deathless gods destroyed my looks that day / the Greeks embarked for Troy. Notice the interplay of d, l and g, interwoven like the threads on the queens loom. Young female slaves in a palace would have had little agency to resist the demands of powerful men. It had such directness, the lines feeling not as if they were being fed into iambic pentameter because of some strategic decision but because the meter was a natural mode for its speaker. So were her lovely cheeks dissolved with tears. The list of English classical translations by contemporary women is distinguished and growing every year: it includes Susanna Braunds Lucan; Diane Arnson Svarliens Euripides; Cynthia Damons Tacitus and Julius Caesar; Alicia Stallings Lucretius; Deborah Robertss Prometheus Bound; Janet Lembkes Virgil and Euripides; Laura Gibbss Aesop; and Anne Carsons innovative, stylish versions of Greek tragedies, as well as her Sappho (also now translated by Diane Rayor). Bought in good faith. The first of these changes is in the very first line. Norgates of many a turn; George Musgraves tost to and fro by fate; the Rev. The works of dead, white elite men have largely been translated by living, white elite men. The fact that its possible to translate the same lines a hundred different times and all of them are defensible in entirely different ways? Not all female-translated texts are marketed as such; the Amazon listing of Menschs The Age of Caesar lists Plutarch and James Romm (the classicist who wrote the footnotes) as the primary authors. The subtle sewing through of the fittingly wavelike W-words in the first half (wandered wrecked where worked) and the stormy S-words that knit together the second half, marrying the waves to the storm in which this man will suffer, made the terse injunctions to the muse that frame this prologue to the poem (Tell me about and Find the beginning) seem as if they might actually answer the puzzle posed by Homers polytropos and Odysseuss complicated nature. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. , she has also published translations of Sophocles, Euripides, and Seneca. For hundreds of years, the study of ancient Greece and Rome was largely the domain of elite white men and their bored sons. I never had a female mentor in classics. Still, the appeal of classics as a discipline was profound, particularly the way that Greek drama presented great emotional tumult. , Item Weight Download the free Kindle app and start reading Kindle books instantly on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required. Both works attributed to Homer - The Iliad and The Odyssey - are over ten thousand lines long in the original. Emily Wilson is the first woman to take on the daunting task of translating over 100,000 lines of a three-millennium-old poem from Ancient Greek to modern-day English. But theres a further wrinkle. It is also true, less obviously, of the available translations into English of ancient Greek and Roman texts, most of which are still created by classicists. But it would give an entirely different perspective and an entirely different setup for the poem. Like every translator, Wilson brings out some features more clearly than others. It took away a whole level of shame., As an undergraduate at Balliol College, Oxford, Wilson studied classics and philosophy. It is the Pope translation. This was . Emily Wilson received a BA (1994) and MPhil (1996) from the University of Oxford and a PhD (2001) from . Department Colloquium: Emily Wilson (Penn) "Iliad 24: A Reading from My Translation" Thursday, November 4, 2021 - 4:45pm to 6:15pm 402 Cohen Hall and also on Zoom, registration below. Polydamas says, plausibly, this sign means the Trojans should pull back from attacking the Greek wall: casualties will be too high, and gains few." The context in which contemporary women produce translations of ancient Greek and Latin is very different from that of the Victorian and Edwardian ladies studied by Prins. Some trade-offs are inevitable. Emily Wilson) Norton (2017) ISBN: 0393089053 Books can be purchased online through the University of Chicago Bookstore. The main purpose of my work is that I should entertain the people. Here is how Wilsons Odyssey begins. From their conversation: Guernica: [The] Timesreferred to you as the first woman to translateThe Odyssey, and I know many other outlets have really focused on this too. in literae humaniores, classical literature, and philosophy), she undertook her master's degree in English literature 15001660 at Corpus Christi College, Oxford (1996), and her Ph.D. (2001) in classical and comparative literature at Yale University. I am learning it in a whole new way with the Iliad. The story is so good/intense it ruined my life for a solid week. She wept for her own husband, who was right next to her. And there are numerous translators who have attempted to translate the Iliad, each with their own advantages and vices. THE ODYSSEY By Homer Translated by Emily Wilson 582 pp. He has published translations of the ILIAD, the ODYSSEY, the AENEID, and the poems of HESIOD. Her mothers experience as a female academic, Wilson said, over lunch the next day at a noisy bistro, was tied up with her colleagues in Somerville, the womens college where she taught. We work hard to protect your security and privacy. Emily Wilson is the College for Women Class of 1963 Term Professor in the Humanities, professor of Classical Studies, and graduate chair of the Program in Comparative Literature & Literary. Homer must have had an amazing memory but was helped by the formulaic poetry style of the time. Of the 60 or so answers to the polytropos question to date, the 36 given above couldnt be less uniform (the two dozen I omit repeat, with minor variations, earlier solutions); what unites them is that their translators largely ignore the ambiguity built into the word theyre translating. : Yopie Prins addresses this question in Ladies Greek: Victorian Translations of Tragedy, her splendid new study of late 19th- and early 20th-century female translators of ancient Greek tragedy. Reviewed in the United States on August 16, 2022. She liked French but was in terror of talking in class. In the Odyssey, preoccupations shift, radically. Email Address * Subject * Message * Thank you! Includes initial monthly payment and selected options. Male classical scholars are represented by the heading classicists which counts more than 200 volumes. We can never be certain that both these stories belonged to Homer. Next up, alphabetically, is female cleaning personnel, which has a larger number of volumes devoted to it: six, with no duplicates, none by Beard. Among the Ancients with Emily Wilson, Professor of Classical Studies at the University of Pennsylvania, and Thomas Jones, writer and editor at the London Review of Books.Medieval Beginnings with Irina Dumitrescu, Professor of Medieval English Literature at the University of Bonn, and Mary Wellesley, historian and contributor to the London . You want to have a sense of anxiety about this character, and that there are going to be layers we see unfolded. In it, she shows how the idea of wild women who dance in nature formed an essential model for female aesthetes, including Harrison and contemporary female choreographers, including Eva Palmer-Sikelianos, who found in Euripides a way to legitimise their own rejection of traditional ways of being a scholar, a dancer, or even an embodied woman. Professor Emily Wilson, Classical Studies and Comparative Literature, "Iliad Translation In Progress: A reading.". Thats one of the things it says. Although translation might seem a natural step for a scholar preoccupied by the connections between antiquity and later texts, Wilson was dissuaded from pursuing it. I have not enjoyed this translation as much, finding aspects of it rather quirky with the use of modern idiom in places and some of the subtleties of the Ancient Greek words and proper names missing . Because there is no perception that its serious intellectually. Odysseus, on his way home from the Trojan War, encounters all kinds of marvels from one-eyed giants to witches and beautiful temptresses. Ruden and Carson are able to reimagine English sentences and English poetry through their tense, difficult encounters with Greek and Roman literature. Though her education there, she says, offered her a strong introduction to literary study, it wasnt lost on her that none of her professors were women. Wilson commented on the challenges of translating Seneca's ornate rhetorical style, saying that Senecan bombast in contemporary English risks sounding "too silly to be impressive. Graduate Coordinator: Katelyn Stoler 236 Cohen Hall, 249 South 36th Street University of Pennsylvania Philadelphia, PA 19104-6304 (215) 573-0250 kastoler@upenn.edu Emily Wilson. But Emily Wilson's literal and precise . Why put oneself in this difficult, alienating position? Reviewed in the United Kingdom on May 24, 2021. Aristotle said that the Iliad was a poem in which things happened to people, while the Odyssey was a poem of character. Emily Wilson is Professor of classical studies and Graduate Chair of the Program in Comparative Literature and Literary Theory at the University of Pennsylvania. All English translators of Homer face a basic problem. And even though I think translation is a way of being innovative within your field, my colleagues dont see it that way., One way of talking about Wilsons translation of the Odyssey is to say that it makes a sustained campaign against that species of scholarly shortsightedness: finding equivalents in English that allow the terms she is choosing to do the same work as the original words, even if the English words are not, according to a Greek lexicon, correct., What gets us to complicated, Wilson said, returning to her translation of polytropos, is both that I think it has some hint of the original ambivalence and ambiguity, such that its both Why is he complicated? What experiences have formed him? which is a very modern kind of question and hints at There might be a problem with him. I wanted to make it a markedly modern term in a way that much turning obviously doesnt feel modern or like English. I think he was a terrible reader of poetry. University of Pennsylvania Professor Emily Wilson in the School of Arts and Sciences has received a fellowship from the John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Foundation in the humanities category for her translations of ancient Greek and Roman literature and philosophy. "In the Iliad, an eagle flies past the Trojans, dropping the snake he carried -- & so gets home empty-beaked and wounded. The students of Girton and Smith who performed Electra were showing off their intellectual capacity, but at the same time they were defusing any political threat; the choice of play reassured their audiences that classical education for women would reinforce their sense of duty and subjection. . The. Follow authors to get new release updates, plus improved recommendations. We are in a bull market, especially in the US, for new translations of classical texts. Socially and emotional complex beyond my expectations, Reviewed in the United States on June 8, 2016. Later Bible translators failed to meet that mystical standard. Of the existing translations, it seems to me that none get across to a reader without Greek the open question that, in fact, is the opening question of the Odyssey, one embedded in the fifth word in its first line: What sort of man is Odysseus? One might assume optimistically that things have changed. Greek maenads were the model for a new, uncorseted way of moving, leaping and dancing. After all, women from a wide variety of backgrounds are now able to enrol at prestigious universities and colleges and learn Latin and Greek from scratch; knowledge of the ancient languages is no longer open only to men. Currently at work on a translation of The Iliad, Wilson is animating classical literature for new audiences and revealing connections between the social, political, and ethical issues they explore and those our current era faces. Female classical translators have tended to approach the original more gingerly, with more careful discipline. I want to be saying, after multiple different revisions: This is the best I can get toward the truth., The First Woman to Translate the Odyssey Into English, https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/magazine/the-first-woman-to-translate-the-odyssey-into-english.html, A page from a notebook Wilson kept while translating the Odyssey.. The most highly praised male classicist translators of our era such as Robert Fagles write with a confident exuberance, often expanding or adding to the original. These are not good criteria, Wilson told me. [2], Wilson "comes from a long line of academics",[2] including both her parents, A. N. Wilson[3] and Katherine Duncan-Jones,[4] her uncle, and her maternal grandparents, including Elsie Duncan-Jones. Unable to add item to List. I need to have a better answer to them, because they will certainly review it, and they will certainly have a loud voice. )critics lauded it as a revelation (Susan Chira. ) (In fact, a handful of women are buried among the classicists; one can find here several studies of Victorian classical scholar Jane Harrison, including a fine one by Beard.). Wilson: Im grateful for the question. Although the war is begun over a woman, Helen, stolen from her Greek husband by a Trojan, the Iliad is a poem about and presided over by men. She lives in Philadelphia. I remember that being one of the big questions I had to start off with.. 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I dont know what to say to those people, honestly. Wilson laughed her buoyant laugh. Professor Emily Wilson, Classical Studies and Comparative Literature, "Iliad Translation In Progress: A reading." A dramatic reading of BOOK 1 of the poem, in current in-progress iambic pentameter verse translation, followed by Q and A. Thursday, November 7, 4:30-6:00 p.m. Lawrences various-minded; William Henry Denham Rouses never at a loss; Richmond Lattimores of many ways; Robert Fitzgeralds skilled in all ways of contending; Albert Cooks of many turns; Walter Shewrings of wide-ranging spirit; Allen Mandelbaums of many wiles; Robert Fagless of twists and turns; all the way to Stanley Lombardos cunning.. But often such words carry real weight: the suitors sauntered in, for instance, where the verb perfectly captures this crew of dapper sociopaths. Odysseus, after slaying the suitors, tells his son, Telemachus, to kill the women. One might wonder whether the gender of the translator makes a difference that can be discerned on the page. Originally Published: February 27th, 2020. Her fifth word is also her solution to the Greek poems fifth word to polytropos: When I first read these lines early this summer in The Paris Review, which published an excerpt, I was floored. [14], Wilson is perhaps best known for her critically acclaimed translation of The Odyssey (2017), becoming the first woman to publish a translation of the work into English. Wilsons unadorned but resonant language plumbs the poems profound pathos and reveals its characters as palpably real, even complicated, human beings. The Catholic Church took 1,200 years to accept Jeromes Latin version (tainted with Judaism, was the charge, as it relied on Hebrew sources). Norton trumpets it as the first English translation of the Odyssey by a woman. (Anne Daciers French prose version appeared in 1708.) Please try again. I wanted there to be a sense, Wilson told me, that maybe there is something wrong with this guy. This is true of the blockbuster Hollywood imaginings of ancient Greece and Rome such as Troy, 300 and Gladiator all male-directed films in which female characters exist primarily as eye candy. She loved the systematization of it, the reams of things to memorize and to get right. This year marks the publication of the first female translation of five of Plutarchs Roman Lives (by Mensch, who has also translated Arrian, Herodotus and five of Plutarchs Greek Lives). If the Iliad is the world's greatest war epic, . Read instantly on your browser with Kindle for Web. Shipping cost, delivery date, and order total (including tax) shown at checkout. The potential shame of pronouncing a French word wrong was pretty inhibiting, Wilson said, laughing. [7] Her next book, The Death of Socrates (2007), examines Socrates' execution. [1] Her thesis was entitled Why Do I Overlive? 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