GROSS: We're listening to my interview with Cinco Paul. GROSS: So the Cecily Strong character loves musicals. PAUL: You know, he's amazing, and he's so tender, and he loves cooking. UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #2: (As character, singing) Every steak's bound to have some fat. You know, my grandmother would buy me musicals on VHS. Other men have eyes that spark at every passing skirt. Please continue playing piano for us. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) No. GROSS: Like, among the shows he did was terrific revivals of "Music Man," which is, of course, referenced (laughter) in "Schmigadoon!" And then the town just starts singing about how great corn pudding is. HARADA: (As Florence, singing) Show me any other man more tender or expressive. (Singing) Some men like to fight and curse. ANN HARADA: (As Florence Menlove) That's a good question. And - yeah. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Seriously, please? USA. Talking about her love interest, Cecily Strong's Partner is Jack. Did you get to go backstage? And, you know, I wouldn't say my wife hates musicals. And then I have to say the Marx Brothers have played a huge role in my life. PAUL: Well, it's kind of crazy. And I was talking about something else, and then I sort of made fun of myself, like, yeah, because, you know, that's - well, that's an important thing for society to hear or something. GROSS: Cecily Strong, welcome to FRESH AIR. Schmigadoon! STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) But not together. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) Would you leave us alone for just a minute? The same year, she starred in, and was a producer for, Schmigadoon!, a musical parody series on Apple TV+. And I was enjoying watching it so much. But to then think I'm - not only do I not fit in, I'm not welcome. And we both enjoy malapropisms, I think, as much as each other, so it's a lot of that. PAUL: (Singing) So now that there's COVID-19 PAUL AND DAURIO: (Singing) Here's what we're going to do. But also, I remember singing "Singin' In The Rain" for the first time as a kid and Donald O'Connor doing "Make 'Em Laugh," and I thought that was the greatest thing I'd ever seen in my life. So somebody at Fox News said my name into a bathroom mirror three times, and here I am. Or I'll go to my garage. He's so different from other men. And so we'll hear Cecily Strong doing a little solo in part of this as Keegan-Michael Key objects (laughter) to her participation. This election is a mis-grace (ph), OK? That's outrighteous (ph). Farmer McDonough craved a son. The off . Can we please go now? STRONG: You know, we definitely loved the exclamations, you know, saving those for the - what. Was it your idea to do her, or did someone say, oh, you should do her? And I can't - she's so far away. No - 'cause I - I mean, we shot in - last fall. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Guys, we're actually in the middle of something. It was Gardner's first time, and her eyes widened as a pile of men in short shorts burst into a number . PAUL: I grew up in Phoenix, Ariz., so I didn't see a lot of shows live, but my mom really loved musicals, and she had cast recordings for - I specifically remember "Camelot" - you know, loving as a pretty young kid and listening to that. So I've gotten to see a lot of his shows in New York. And, you know, everybody that was there was supposed to be there. CHE: (As himself) Yeah, OK. Can you just please tell us about the candidates? UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) My guy loves corn puddin'. PAUL: He was not a fan. It's so, like, vaudeville era. All rights reserved. STRONG: No because it wasn't like they were not emotional thoughts, you know? And I think that's probably why I enjoy rewatching it so much, is just taking myself back there. GROSS: So when does a decision have to be made? So I don't know what you do with that. Stop. So here's another scene from "Schmigadoon!". The "Saturday Night Live" mainstay (and two-time Emmy nominee) started drama classes when she was just 3 years old as a way of channeling her oddball energy . She stars in the new series "Schmigadoon!" UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) We want corn puddin'. And then my uncle is also a Broadway producer. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) And you're not sick? I don't know exactly where you live. And she told me I was looking at the world with S - I can't swear - with crap-colored glasses. It wasn't like I'm pulling out. You know, there were a lot of tears on set, happy tears, just so much love and so much joy and such - we were all just so honored to be there, and it felt like we got to share this magical thing. STRONG: (As Melissa) This was literally me in high school. And so we play with that trope as well. You know, there were a lot of tears on-set - happy tears - just so much love and so much joy and such - we were all just so honored to be there, and it felt like we got to share this magical thing. STRONG: (As The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation With at a Party) Hello, Michael Che. And then I remembered, like, hearing my straight male friends talk about interactions that they'd had, like, with some girl that seems normal, and then it's like, oh, she just said something crazy, and how do I get out of this conversation? KEY: (As Josh Skinner) Oh, no - no, no, no, no, no, no. The series stars Cecily Strong and Keegan-Michael Key as a couple who find themselves stuck in a 1940s musical's wacky town, where people sing about their love of "Corn Pudding" and quite . GROSS: (Laughter) The music is kind of like a hoedown. I'm Terry Gross. And it is - it still feels a bit like controlled chaos, on "Update" especially, where it feels kind of fresh, and we're not exactly sure what's going to happen. If you're a nerd, just be a nerd. So I want to ask you about another character that you've done, and that's the Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation With at a Party. STRONG: (As Jeanine Pirro) Can't do it, pal. Like, what are you thinking? It's not like I drove myself. This is a colostomy, Michael Che. GROSS: Yeah. And I wound up never stopping. So you must have had this idea early on that being in shows was something real people did. ; Cecily Strong was not featured in the opening credits due to her . But she left the desk, preferring to do sketch comedy, which she's great at. STRONG: (As The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation with at a Party) Please do not man-terrupt (ph) me when I'm wo-making (ph) a point, Michael. Unless she's a superwoman, you won't be seeing Cecily Strong on "Saturday Night Live" tonight. STRONG: No. But apparently, according to the leprechaun, this isn't true love. because everyone in it seems to be enjoying being in it so much. This one-woman show was a Broadway hit in 1985 and starred Lily Tomlin as 12 characters, something Cecily Strong seems very well-suited for. You know, the first show we did, we did the table read on Wednesday. (As characters, singing) Just 'cause you feuded don't mean that you're concluded. Thanks for finally letting a woman on late-night TV. How did it affect your sense of self to be arrested and to be expelled and to think, maybe, you wouldn't even graduate high school? - in late September usually. She attended Oak Park and River Forest High School respectively. She's also . STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) So what? Strong, who joined the cast of "Saturday Night Live" in 2012, received several accolades for her impersonations of Melania Trump, Fox News host, Judge Jeanine Pirro, and many others. And she has a new memoir called "This Will All Be Over Soon." Was it your idea to do her, or did someone say, oh, you should do her? It's brought me such pleasure at a time when I think we all need some pleasure. Now Emmy-nominated actress Cecily Strong slides through the tour-de-force roles created by the Peabody and Emmy Award-winning writer Jane Wagner who is reimagining the legendary one-person play . I'm Terry Gross. Strong said, admitting she immediately said yes to starring in the show, even though she thought the idea was "insane." Leigh Silverman is the director of the off-Broadway revival of The Search . Sure, she's popped up in small cameos for shows like Angie Tribeca , Superstore, and Scream . STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble, singing) And it may be a waste. I'd feel safer being a child actor in Chicago. And we were making the sets and making our props and hair and makeup, so it was really - we had a fun little make believe studio here. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Oh, I think they want us to take a verse. GROSS: I really love that. GROSS: That's Cecily Strong as Judge Jeanine Pirro. And I think they knew that about me. Strong said that because her uncle is a Broadway producer, . GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. Mean, horny men lying on in-home hospital beds and white prison gangs who control the remote on Saturdays, thank you for watching. It's not something we're going to eradicate. JOST: (As himself) You don't have to shout, you know. It's such a contrast for me seeing the joy in "Schmigadoon!" is a weird show. GROSS: That's really funny. A leprechaun has explained to the couple - in song - that they can't leave Schmigadoon until they find true love, which means the depth of their love is about to be tested. COLIN JOST: (As himself) Fox News personality Judge Jeanine Pirro returned to television tonight after being suspended two weeks for controversial comments about a Muslim congresswoman. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Guys, we're actually in the middle of something. STRONG: Yeah. GROSS: Oh, yeah. But they both soon realize they're trapped in Schmigadoon, where life is a musical. They smoke and drink and yell, leave you flat, or, even worse, they stay and make life hell. Why did you want him to hate musicals? She's created some great characters for the show. He's a queer one, that man o' mine. Mean, horny men lying on in-home hospital beds and white prison gangs who control the remote on Saturdays, thank you for watching. I'm Terry Gross. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, chanting) Corn, Corn KEY: (As Josh Skinner) That's it. It's about her life during the first year of the pandemic, when she felt overcome by anxiety and depression. GROSS: Well, in some ways, maybe it was a good thing because you ended up - after going to Catholic school, you ended up in a performing arts high school, which is where you really fit in. GROSS: Let's hear you as the Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation With at a Party. He's a queer one, that man o' mine. Cecily Strong On 'SNL,' 'Schmigadoon!' . And we'll also hear the Cecily Strong character kind of join in in a verse, much to the Keegan-Michael Key character's annoyance. I was so, like, mad that no one was letting me have my rehearsal. GROSS: And he's not just a Broadway producer. PAUL: The first cartoon I saw that really impacted me, I think, was "The Jungle Book." STRONG: (As The Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation with at a Party) Please do not man-terrupt (ph) me when I'm wo-making (ph) a point, Michael. Originally broadcast Aug. 9 and Aug. 23. STRONG: I did - and I mean, not always. And then my uncle is also a Broadway producer. All rights reserved. Yum. We can't wait to make him watch it - with Cinco and Ken. GROSS: OK, let me reintroduce you here, and then we'll talk some more. Here's all the safety measures - until I finally felt safe. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) Yum. STRONG: Yeah, absolutely I do. SNL season 48 premiered without some cast members many considered synonymous with the show in recent years. During a recent . I am eating ice cream, and the voiceover says, like, well, McDonald's now has ice - soft-serve for 37 cents or whatever it was. I want you to talk about writing this because this is an example of a song that I don't think closely adheres to another song. The entire town and you just spent the last five minutes singing about corn pudding. Just like the idea, you know, that it's like, you can have so much passion and feelings about these things that you don't really understand and haven't given much thought to and using them to sort of put down other people. Lily Tomlin, the original star and Tony Award winner of 'The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, poses with the star of the L.A. production, Cecily . Strong slid into a corner booth with her fellow "S.N.L." cast member Heidi Gardner. So I really was like, come on, everybody. So it's like something my family had already been dealing with. During this final week of the year, we're featuring a few of the many interviews from 2021 that we enjoyed. She's always got a very gravely serious affectation. The couple, Josh and Melissa, are played by Keegan-Michael Key and Cecily Strong. GROSS: All right. So - but talk about writing this and what you wanted to do with it. But she kept going, what? I loved that movie so much, and the songs in that are so good. You not only - because you were expelled, you not only weren't allowed to attend the ceremony; you weren't allowed within a three-block radius of where the ceremony was, and you were threatened with arrest if you overstepped that boundary. Copyright 2021 NPR. Did you get to go backstage? She is also the longest-tenured female cast member in the show's history. And immediately he's concerned about the age difference, especially because the actresses, you know, who play these roles were never actually teenagers. GROSS: Cecily Strong, welcome to FRESH AIR. And I'm - that's according to doctors, Michael Che. (SOUNDBITE OF RICHARD RODGERS' "'OKLAHOMA!' Strong was hired for SNL while doing improv at The Second City in Chicago, where she moved . I got the recipe. You know, my grandmother would buy me musicals on VHS. You want to try with other people? If you're just joining us, my guest is Cinco Paul, and he co-created, co-wrote and then wrote all the songs for the satirical musical series "Schmigadoon! She has over 500k followers on her Instagram. STRONG: I mean, I think I just felt smaller and smaller and smaller. STRONG: It was awful. Here with her final thoughts on this election is the Girl You Wish You Hadn't Started a Conversation With at a Party. And then I think a real key moment was - I think I was 14 and was asked to play piano for my high school's musical. Then I kind of want to, like, go further. (SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE"). KEY: (As Josh Skinner) I didn't say that. GROSS: So let's talk a little bit about your work on "Saturday Night Live." And, you know, she talks about, like, other men are really harsh and - but he's gentle, you know, like a lacy valentine. A leprechaun has explained to the couple - in song - that they can't leave Schmigadoon until they find true love, which means the depth of their love is about to be tested. It kind of felt like that a little bit. Later, we'll hear from Cinco Paul, who co-created the series and wrote all the songs. It was a McDonald's commercial that never aired. This is FRESH AIR. The town looks like a stage or movie set from the early 20th century. It's like, I'll keep driving west. Oh, he'll have to marry me. Of course I love you. Cecily Strong had a special bond with her cousin Owen. The women are wearing long, colorful prairie dresses with big petticoats. No. I've been slightly hypoglycemic since I was a kid, so I have to make sure I eat in the morning and get my sugar. overall No. I think that's why, for 25 years, nothing happened with it because it was - it needed that addition to really crack it. CHE: (As himself) Yeah. (SOUNDBITE OF GEORGE SHEARING'S "THINKING OF YOU"). 'Cause Kevin can wait, but Syrian refugees can't, OK? STRONG: Well, it was sort of a mix of, like, I'm making fun of myself, and then I'm thinking about people I'd seen on Facebook. STRONG: Oh, totally. It's streaming on Apple TV+. We'll be right back after a short break. It's a journal of her first year of the pandemic, dealing with anxiety and depression. He's, like, a really big Broadway producer. And he - you know, he had had depression for a long time. . I only wish that nightly he were slightly more aggressive. Yes, he is not anyone from the film industry. God, this whole musical is so much fun. And it is - there is something weird about these old men, you know, sort of creating works of art in which there are these May-December romances. September 29, 2022 5:22pm. And you go like, whoa, what's that? She's nominated for an Emmy for her work on "Saturday Night Live." Is that an idea that you originated? STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) So you don't really love me? And I think she's doing well. In "South Pacific," there's a younger woman who ends up falling in love with an older man. Do you feel like you're competing with other people who are nominated? July 16, 2021 1:58 PM PT. GROSS: And so the reason why they're singing about corn pudding is it's their first morning in town. In "Schmigadoon!," a musical comedy about musical theater starting a six-episode run Friday on Apple TV+, Cecily Strong and Keegan Michael-Key play Melissa and Josh . KEY: (As Josh Skinner) Are you serious? Please do a Season 2. Cecily attended Oak Park and River Forest High . I saw "Guys And Dolls." In case you are wondering about his identity, Jack is an international traveler. And I guess there's also "Can't Help Lovin' Dat Man Of Mine" (ph) - you know, these women who sing songs where, you know, he has maybe these flaws, but I still love him, you know? Mama's got one volume, and it's three chardonnays deep at a crowded party. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) But not together. Extra-dirty vodka Martinis - they're so easy to drink! GROSS: Cecily Strong stars in the new series "Schmigadoon!" Terry, I have to say it is so meaningful to me that you like the show and that you responded to it like this. ", (SOUNDBITE OF PODCAST, "MAKE HIM WATCH IT"). In a 2021 interview with Terry Gross on the National Public Radio program Fresh Air, Strong said that because her uncle is a Broadway producer, as a child she often got to attend Broadway shows and sometimes go back stage to meet their casts.She then attended a private Catholic school until transferring for her senior year to the Chicago Academy for the Arts, where she graduated in 2002. KEY: (As Josh Skinner) I'm not singing, and you're not singing. STRONG: Well, first of all, just thank you for saying that. And it was "How To Succeed In Business Without Really Trying." If you're just joining us, my guest is Cecily Strong, and she stars in the new series "Schmigadoon!," which is a loving satire of classic musicals from the '40s and '50s. And it was like, now let's read our sketches and see - and then, like, have to film them all by Saturday. Good. STRONG: (As Melissa Gimble) So you don't really love me? PAUL: From your mouth to God's ears. COLIN JOST: Fox News personality Judge Jeanine Pirro returned to television tonight after being suspended two weeks for controversial comments about a Muslim congresswoman. GROSS: Reports are that you're not sure whether you're going back to "SNL" in the fall. I know from your new memoir that when "Saturday Night Live" did some episodes with everybody at home, that you were - you didn't want to participate at first, and you didn't do one or two of the shows because you just didn't feel ready to perform, I mean, because you really were in a serious state of depression and anxiety. MICHAEL CHE: (As himself) With the election only two weeks away, both candidates are trying to get a final message out there to their supporters. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) Oh, she sure would like a taste. UNIDENTIFIED CHORUS: (As characters, singing) Oh, she sure would like a taste. Hi. You put the corn in the puddin' and the puddin' in the bowl. I think there's nothing more thrilling than hearing Terry Gross likes (laughter) your show and (laughter) enjoys it and has joy from it. Luckily for us, but maybe - who knows for the greater world - someone else can judge luckily or not, but she became more popular and more of a household name. KEEGAN-MICHAEL KEY: (As Josh Skinner) I mean KEY: (As Josh Skinner) Look; this whole thing is insane. But of course, like, everything's bad timing over the past couple of years or whatever. I don't have enough gym credits to graduate on time. STRONG: I did - and I mean, not always. 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