reinforced bythe simple observation that you have never actually posted here before[at least under your supplied handle/ID]. (1) As more people opt for lasik surgery, he will not be able to hide behind those specs. At what point do we decide whether Corpse Mandy's very slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? <<<<<<<<<on the balcony looking down> at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to him. Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in adepressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethaldrug overdose. Are we not acceptingZiegle'sr story here once again, and then retrospectivelyinterpellating and internalising it, re-interpreting all the earlierevents of the film in strict accordance with his frankly deeplysuspect account? No, it was just set up that way, as a puzzle, so that there would beendless discussion. > The way Zeigler confirms it was Mandy is matter of fact and it isn't as > though Bill seemed surprised at this--even if the audience might still be > confused.>, > 2. Imay bewrong, but I think Kubrick intended it that way. There's also search enginessuch as Google where you can search for information. MYMENU MYMENU Masquerade Mask For Couples If we try to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries. >Even in the morgue he still might not have> been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the> body. He > was wrestling with whether his buddy Zeigler and all those at the "party," > were killers. >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? What does the mask on the pillow at the end of Eyes Wide Shutmean? Bill Harford doesn't really showmuch recognition in th emorgue scene. >> >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? > > On Jan 11, 6:50 am, dumb_n00b wrote: > > This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the film. Why would he demand that she take offher mask if this were so? and> pleading with her to take off her mask? I think the voice would have rung a bell and > the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course > seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so > he was in shock. The rhizomatic uncertainties and> > uncanny inconsistencies multiply > following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,> ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots from> from its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface. And of course how did the mask get on his pillow? In a case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his mind, but he was kinda busy. Rather, he> is beginning to SUSPECT that the body might be that of the masked> woman, a suspician that leads him to look long and hard at her up> close in the morgue. Somerton could hardly be >> >>>>>> described (and>, >> certainly not by Bill) as a 'party.'<<<<<<<<<<<. WebI n the film "Eyes Wide Shut", who was the masked woman that redeemed Tom Cruise's character? ", and for those whom may have something like an actual interest in, > In rec.arts.movies.past-films Kelpzoidzl <. A powerful man realizes one night that his wife has had not one but myriad So check out Mandy's Wink on the slab---it's very fast, but it is there:), Yeah but he used the same actor for different roles in Dr Strangeloveand in some scenes of Eyes Wide Shut he has Cruise on a treadmillagainst a blue screen using real photography of NYC behind him, thenin the next scene Cruise is filmed against a set in england. I had absolutely no idea you were involved in any way. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<> First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was> showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. I agree though, he hadnt made a defintiive connection yet. (meaning the Mysterious woman) "victor the woman lying dead at the morgue was the women at the party, well victor, maybe i'm missing something heyou call it a Charadetell me what kind of Charade ends up with someone dead.". (2) With AT&T recently announcing that they will dump almost all of their public pay phones, where can he change? Bill is ushered to a crowded room and unmasked by the master of ceremonies. ". First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. WebBrowse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask women and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a community of small business-owners. > slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? There are many aspects of it that ARE still a > mystery such as I was suggesting with the costume. People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut The genre of Stanley Kubricks last film, based on the well-known story of the Austrian A. Schnitzler, The >>Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays >>her voice in his head while looking over the body. Mandy was not the same woman. Web1-48 of 339 results for "Eyes Wide Shut Mask" RESULTS Price and other details may vary based on product size and color. As though testing how well Bill's implanted suggestions had taken..????? What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning theidentities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps anddeadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just likeZiegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' ofevents. I think this feeling of guilt and outrage at a murder, would be the first thing on his mind. If this were really thecase, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to themasked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" Desire is always Other. In a big crowd of masked people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is) on the balcony looking down at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to him. Regardless of the different actresses in the credits, what I see is that the woman at the ceremony, who redeems him, apparently the "mysterious woman," has a small freckle/mole on her chest about 2 inches to her left side of center, above her breasts, which I think, can also be seen slightly on the corpse. Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elitesdoesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who dorecognise the realities of social power and of desire are justparanoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those whoattribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are beingproperly paranoid). It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, etc. There are many aspects of it that ARE still a mystery such as I was suggesting with the costume. It's profoundly, structurally, indeterminate >>> 1. so drugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense ofanything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligiblemumbling),<<<. I agree though, he hadnt made a defintiive connection yet. Given that you have, as you already admitted, absolutely nounderstanding of the terms used or indeed the context in which theywere used, your pedantry is now exposed as pure and contemptiblefraudulence. Let's get out of here.You're my witness. If he wereZiegler, wouldn't he instead be going out of his way to privatelycommunicate with Bill, to get Bill out of Somerton as quickly aspossible in order to avoid any possible trouble (and as Zieglersubsequently admits, Bill's gate-crashing 'made me look like acomplete fool')? ">> "Victor what can I say. WebThe protagonists mask (Bill Harford, interpreted by Tom Cruise) is a Venetian mask that covers the entire face. WebDirected by Stanley Kubrick Writing Credits Cast (in credits order) verified as complete Produced by Music by Jocelyn Pook Cinematography by Larry Smith (lighting From his meeting with Ziegler in the poolroom, it appears that Billhas been unclear about the identity of the woman in the morgue via-a-vis Mandy and the masked woman. It was a > party nevertheless. while walking down one of the NY streets, the background glowsbeautifucally. Not only are they the REAL "anti-intellectuals," they were schizoid as hell and projected it onto the social mess, creating political gibberish, that has NO usefulness to anyone. >> When we see the news article about dead Mandy, it says "Beauty Queen"> but how did Bill know that was the same woman who ODd or helped him at> the orgy, since he never knew the real name of either? WebThat particular Royal event featured masked women who were as NOT dressed as those in the Eyes Wide Shut ritual. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. <<<<<<<<<<<. Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let thewomen there know that there was an interloper? Web .

1925 . The film revolves around the tension between these twophenomena; it is about this tension): 1. desiring Amanda Curran to bethe Mandy from Ziegler's party would confirm his guilt - in hisprofessional capacity as a doctor attending a patient in need - aboutleaving her fate in the hands of Ziegler, serving power rather thanmorality or medical ethics, a guilt he now seeks to redress byimmediately going to visit Amanda/Mandy at the hospital to try andredeem himself; and 2. desiring Amanda to be the masked woman, a womanwho seemingly redeems Bill's Somerton-crashing guilt for him via theSomerton 'charade.'. >Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to >see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come >together. In keeping with the filmmaker's quest for perfection, the shoot for Eyes Wide Shut famously rolled on, with the movie holding the record for the longest consecutiveshoot, as filming began in late 1996 and wrapped in mid-1998. >Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from> the bathroom, till he happened to see the news story and saw the name> "Amanda," then it started to come together. It is only when Ziegler responds> positively to Bill's question, "The woman at the party is the woman in> the morgue?" He stares down at her but that'sit, and Kubrick tryied in vain to tlel his stories visually so itshould be considerd from a visual perspective. >>>>>>>>>>>> And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequentlysend a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? Nah, the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. <<<<<<<<<<. 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